reply to Salvo (see previous post):
I do not hate nor mocks the spirituality of man I inflict against something else. The fact for example that ' sign' and 'remember ' (which should only refers to something else) the relic becomes a cult object in its own right, far away from the rest of the enormous ethical message of Jesus The relic , as well as travel to the holy places, gesture becomes sacred and good in itself (a classic "go to Padre Pio at least once a year" would be enough, in the minds of many, to save themselves and feel in place with a clear conscience). And then to 'worship' becomes very often 'veneration'. The Pope, in the minds of many, is seen as 'minister of God' but as Jesus / God. The throngs of people who try to touch it is the proof: he is an idol, not a witness to another.
The question of the term "tribal" (I know what it means): he wanted to be, indeed, a large-scale provocation: from 1492 onwards were deemed less than all those peoples 'tribal', for which the term has run went connoting negative and is opposed to the 'healthy and modern' progress (made of lead and Inquisition) . By the way, no one lifted a finger when the Inquisition impaled alleged infidels in the name of Jesus (!), So you're naive to ask:
"in scripture there is no a prohibition of worship "other gods", if it were not so, as I explain the proliferation of Madonnas, saints, martyrs and blessed in the whole of Christianity and no one has ever lifted a finger? "
And who had to lift a finger against the veneration? The same people who demanded money for 'move' the dead from purgatory to heaven? Or those who terrorized people with Torquemada and torture? Take note that therefore religiosity of many of Jesus is often DISAPPEARED to make room for a huge row of saints and madonnas. Let it be said, however, between the lines: the virginity of the Madonna seems to be the result of a mistranslation of Matthew (which translates the Hebrew 'Alma-girl' in the greek 'parthenos-Virgin'). As for the historical existence of Jesus I read arguments to the contrary, indicate that in Jesus the confluence of various mythological figures perished at the age of 33 years are very similar to Christ. In any case, who assures me that he did miracles? In addition, about idolatry :
- "Do not get sculpture [idol], any likeness of what is in heaven above or on earth beneath or in the waters under the terra.Non you bow down to them nor them serve "(Deuteronomy 5:8)
-" Your wickedness will be done fall upon him, ye shall bear the penalty of your idolatry, and know that I am the Lord "(Ezekiel 23:49) -" Wherefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry "(I Corinthians, 10:14)
-" Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are: immorality, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred ... "(Galatians 5:20)
-" lest you act corruptly and they do make some sculpture, the representation of some idol, the figure of a man or a woman "(Deutoronomio, 4:16)
Etc ... And in fact my prof. of Jewish Studies, jew, is outraged to Catholicism (both for the error of translation" virgin "is the rampant idolatry). As for the Armed Forces Church in my opinion should neither curse nor bless them. Because in fact NOT 'ROLE factors interfere in this land. should give guidelines, not to sign (implicitly) the fairness of a social order . Should work for charity and social justice (where, incidentally, would be drastically less need armies and containment of violence). So instead of doing justify a de facto state of things instead of working for the advancement of true spirituality and a message of brotherhood and peace . What justifies fellowship and blessing? One of the bombs that we have spent in the hands of Africans and Asians and now we want to prevent them to do of evil and cause of mass genocide? The Church should tear, are dismayed and terrified face of the 'hard way', wondering why this is necessary and what you can do so that does not happen. E 'deep and anthropological question .. not that goes there with his finger and brush holy water on the uniforms (holy God, on the uniform! But then imagine, the priestly caste lives of grades, and uniform social hierarchies).
You're right, everyone is free to live their religion, no problem. In fact I do not have with my brother who is Buddhist, I have it with those who distorts / handling / perverts I think a great potential to make a mental disaster. The problem is that I try to propose a battle of critical research of the truth (as a philosopher and humanist) , so I find it absurd to build scaffolding on scaffolding from misreadings, mistranslations, and illogical suggestions (often science fiction or, worse, ANTI-scientific ). Did you know that in some American schools is the creation time rather than that of evolutionism? Did you know that for any doubts TOPICS AND MORE 'odd, philosophical and less philosophical, the believer (when it is in bad faith or with naivete) takes refuge in a smile, always accompanied by the phrase "and that got to do, here it takes faith " (also that the Fuhrer was a faith I mean, maybe we do not create damage, but we are blind and passively accept as TRUTH 'ABSOLUTE stuff a culturally inherited and never questioned).
I think that we can arrive at a faith of some sort, but after a journey of soul searching, literary dialogue form .. not so the cock. I've been a believer, but then I thought long (still reflect daily) and I know that is not easy to take refuge in their faith in atheism, OR (which I once heard given the 'coward' because I was an atheist .. but I think the 'coward' and 'lazy' and those who take refuge in the belief that comfortably enough of the Decalogue commandments to do good and not sbruciacchiare in eternal flames).
I close by quoting the magazine "I do not think"
deism, theism, pantheism, agnosticism, atheism is "isms" that belong to legitimate and also took the world of personal opinion, not verifiable nor demonstrable, but which everyone can freely approach thought was right for him. Whatever this view, as long as it's a vision of individual peranza it does no harm, indeed contributes to the great debate individual. The damage is done, and it's great when you go to associations colonialism and ideological mass that, using the power he holds, as is hierarchical and institutionalized religions, seeks to convert or suppress the liberal views of others. thinking human being should be adventure, risk taking, pursuit of an ideal, pervasive love that can not be reduced to passive obedience to childish dogmas, clergy, books and texts.
[As in the well-documented in "Jesus Camp" documentary - available on YouTube and subtitled in Eng - many religious faiths, at different levels and in different ways, requiring] initiation rites and psychological conditioning from an early age who claim obedience and too often persecute dissent. Instead, the collective ethics and morals individual organizations, but these do not come from the p rofondo of the human heart, from the vibration of the spirit, the feelings of empathy : These are, however, lay achievements of our species and its phylogenetic heritage and there is no need for mediation , oltrettutto so different and incompatible and hostile to each other (what are the established religions). [Religions can - in rare cases - to contribute to a genuine personal growth, but in many cases] automaturazione counterproductive in the path of ethics and moral message. "
therefore conclude the discussion, I think I did an overview (certainly not exhaustive) on several on some key issues and my beliefs. The problem of dogma is, in essence, to take root (as indeed is 'doctrine'), to fester and take a nature OTHER than the initial one. The dogma slows or prevents the path (which is progress, but also, unfortunately, decline) of the Spirit of the times. The Spirit may not have direction (contrary to the Hegelian conception), but religion is fixed on an event (or pseudo-such) looking at some (few and illuminatissimi) cases dug deep to find a meaning, a growth in vast majority of cases, however, stasis, curvature, blindness ... dogma, in fact.
I do not hate nor mocks the spirituality of man I inflict against something else. The fact for example that ' sign' and 'remember ' (which should only refers to something else) the relic becomes a cult object in its own right, far away from the rest of the enormous ethical message of Jesus The relic , as well as travel to the holy places, gesture becomes sacred and good in itself (a classic "go to Padre Pio at least once a year" would be enough, in the minds of many, to save themselves and feel in place with a clear conscience). And then to 'worship' becomes very often 'veneration'. The Pope, in the minds of many, is seen as 'minister of God' but as Jesus / God. The throngs of people who try to touch it is the proof: he is an idol, not a witness to another.
The question of the term "tribal" (I know what it means): he wanted to be, indeed, a large-scale provocation: from 1492 onwards were deemed less than all those peoples 'tribal', for which the term has run went connoting negative and is opposed to the 'healthy and modern' progress (made of lead and Inquisition) . By the way, no one lifted a finger when the Inquisition impaled alleged infidels in the name of Jesus (!), So you're naive to ask:
"in scripture there is no a prohibition of worship "other gods", if it were not so, as I explain the proliferation of Madonnas, saints, martyrs and blessed in the whole of Christianity and no one has ever lifted a finger? "
And who had to lift a finger against the veneration? The same people who demanded money for 'move' the dead from purgatory to heaven? Or those who terrorized people with Torquemada and torture? Take note that therefore religiosity of many of Jesus is often DISAPPEARED to make room for a huge row of saints and madonnas. Let it be said, however, between the lines: the virginity of the Madonna seems to be the result of a mistranslation of Matthew (which translates the Hebrew 'Alma-girl' in the greek 'parthenos-Virgin'). As for the historical existence of Jesus I read arguments to the contrary, indicate that in Jesus the confluence of various mythological figures perished at the age of 33 years are very similar to Christ. In any case, who assures me that he did miracles? In addition, about idolatry :
- "Do not get sculpture [idol], any likeness of what is in heaven above or on earth beneath or in the waters under the terra.Non you bow down to them nor them serve "(Deuteronomy 5:8)
-" Your wickedness will be done fall upon him, ye shall bear the penalty of your idolatry, and know that I am the Lord "(Ezekiel 23:49) -" Wherefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry "(I Corinthians, 10:14)
-" Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are: immorality, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred ... "(Galatians 5:20)
-" lest you act corruptly and they do make some sculpture, the representation of some idol, the figure of a man or a woman "(Deutoronomio, 4:16)
Etc ... And in fact my prof. of Jewish Studies, jew, is outraged to Catholicism (both for the error of translation" virgin "is the rampant idolatry). As for the Armed Forces Church in my opinion should neither curse nor bless them. Because in fact NOT 'ROLE factors interfere in this land. should give guidelines, not to sign (implicitly) the fairness of a social order . Should work for charity and social justice (where, incidentally, would be drastically less need armies and containment of violence). So instead of doing justify a de facto state of things instead of working for the advancement of true spirituality and a message of brotherhood and peace . What justifies fellowship and blessing? One of the bombs that we have spent in the hands of Africans and Asians and now we want to prevent them to do of evil and cause of mass genocide? The Church should tear, are dismayed and terrified face of the 'hard way', wondering why this is necessary and what you can do so that does not happen. E 'deep and anthropological question .. not that goes there with his finger and brush holy water on the uniforms (holy God, on the uniform! But then imagine, the priestly caste lives of grades, and uniform social hierarchies).
You're right, everyone is free to live their religion, no problem. In fact I do not have with my brother who is Buddhist, I have it with those who distorts / handling / perverts I think a great potential to make a mental disaster. The problem is that I try to propose a battle of critical research of the truth (as a philosopher and humanist) , so I find it absurd to build scaffolding on scaffolding from misreadings, mistranslations, and illogical suggestions (often science fiction or, worse, ANTI-scientific ). Did you know that in some American schools is the creation time rather than that of evolutionism? Did you know that for any doubts TOPICS AND MORE 'odd, philosophical and less philosophical, the believer (when it is in bad faith or with naivete) takes refuge in a smile, always accompanied by the phrase "and that got to do, here it takes faith " (also that the Fuhrer was a faith I mean, maybe we do not create damage, but we are blind and passively accept as TRUTH 'ABSOLUTE stuff a culturally inherited and never questioned).
I think that we can arrive at a faith of some sort, but after a journey of soul searching, literary dialogue form .. not so the cock. I've been a believer, but then I thought long (still reflect daily) and I know that is not easy to take refuge in their faith in atheism, OR (which I once heard given the 'coward' because I was an atheist .. but I think the 'coward' and 'lazy' and those who take refuge in the belief that comfortably enough of the Decalogue commandments to do good and not sbruciacchiare in eternal flames).
I close by quoting the magazine "I do not think"
deism, theism, pantheism, agnosticism, atheism is "isms" that belong to legitimate and also took the world of personal opinion, not verifiable nor demonstrable, but which everyone can freely approach thought was right for him. Whatever this view, as long as it's a vision of individual peranza it does no harm, indeed contributes to the great debate individual. The damage is done, and it's great when you go to associations colonialism and ideological mass that, using the power he holds, as is hierarchical and institutionalized religions, seeks to convert or suppress the liberal views of others. thinking human being should be adventure, risk taking, pursuit of an ideal, pervasive love that can not be reduced to passive obedience to childish dogmas, clergy, books and texts.
[As in the well-documented in "Jesus Camp" documentary - available on YouTube and subtitled in Eng - many religious faiths, at different levels and in different ways, requiring] initiation rites and psychological conditioning from an early age who claim obedience and too often persecute dissent. Instead, the collective ethics and morals individual organizations, but these do not come from the p rofondo of the human heart, from the vibration of the spirit, the feelings of empathy : These are, however, lay achievements of our species and its phylogenetic heritage and there is no need for mediation , oltrettutto so different and incompatible and hostile to each other (what are the established religions). [Religions can - in rare cases - to contribute to a genuine personal growth, but in many cases] automaturazione counterproductive in the path of ethics and moral message. "
therefore conclude the discussion, I think I did an overview (certainly not exhaustive) on several on some key issues and my beliefs. The problem of dogma is, in essence, to take root (as indeed is 'doctrine'), to fester and take a nature OTHER than the initial one. The dogma slows or prevents the path (which is progress, but also, unfortunately, decline) of the Spirit of the times. The Spirit may not have direction (contrary to the Hegelian conception), but religion is fixed on an event (or pseudo-such) looking at some (few and illuminatissimi) cases dug deep to find a meaning, a growth in vast majority of cases, however, stasis, curvature, blindness ... dogma, in fact.
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